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being a mod dj i dont know much about oi music apart from ,stiff little fingers,cockney rejects,sham 69,i need a bit of help because im djing a scooter ralley soon and need help with some cds cheers
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Stiff Little Fingers I figured was just a "regular punk" band, myself, but I guess I can see their inclusion on the same grounds that I can see bands like Shriekback and Propaganda included in 80s Goth lists in there's a lot of lyrical subject overlap, and people into x-subgenre would probably like Y-Band, even if there's no strong scene connection.
You've checked out The Business, right? I admit, I'm probably not much better off on this than you are. I think early stuff from Toy Dolls might count.
Now I feel like a failure; I have a lot of skinhead friends into Oi punk, but honestly, i don't talk music much with my friends, and after a while, most punk music and its sub-genres sounds very samey to me.
Oh, also, a friend of mine in Ypsilanti, Michigan, has an Oi Punk band called Ironclad; if memory serves, they got the name from the Incredible Hulk. They opened for The Business here in Lansing a few weeks ago.
Also found a Wikipedia section on the political associations of Oi, as a scene and genre, which seems pretty well-sourced, so I hope it helps people out. I admit, I had my own nervousness when my friend described his current band as "Oi punk", due mainly to the Doc Marten book's section on it, but he assured me and showed me proof that Oi bands, and those considered appealing to that genre, are just as varied as anything else associated with Skinheads, and in reality, are far more likely to be Left-leaning than the hype might make one think.
All total and absolute crap (oi, not punk music) which in its heyday was the music of choice for racists, and it has as much to do with the Mod scene as cut down scooters.
hi paddy im not into it myself northern soul and mod are my style its just scooter ralleys are more into that stuff
Maybe you should try reading what people say. I never said the bands themselves were racists. I did say that Oi music was the music of choice for racists. If you did not know that then you were obviously not around in 81/82, the time I was referring to.
Well I was fairly taken aback tbh that a post on oi music had appeared on what is meant to be a Mod site; it would be similar to someone asking what we all think about the new Kawasaki 650, although there are no racist connotations with Japanese motorbikes ha ha. Saying I had classed the bands as racist was also just plain wrong so maybe we are quits then.
If I ever meet up with you down at McChuills or Friday Street I will tell you about the stuff I mean and that I don't want to go into on the site. And yes, the Kawa 650s are like certain scooters only more scooterlike than some you will see in scootering magazine ha ha.
sorry to bring it up chris put scooter ralleys like that stuff i think its s*** myself lol give me the small faces anyday
Did not mean to come across as all moany and that mate, but there are some things about Oi (well early Oi) that was more than a bit dodgy. The last time I went to a scooter rally (1986) stuff like that was being played and it was not a comfortable feeling being there.
I didn't think it was that weird, but then I wasn't where you were at in 81 (indeed, I was in utero); I can just see how there might be some peripheral interest.
...but then, I have a more varied definition of "Mod music" than most people in the scene seem to have. It's not a genre, it's a scene, a subculture, and one that grows and evolves. It's like how I have friends who are Goths, but they absolutely listen to more music than 80s Gothic rock and any band that might've played at The Batcave, and they don't mind discussing that other music on their fora.