The Society of Cool!
For some there is no seperating the mod from northern soul scene,and yet for others who moved onto the northern soul scene to be called a mod would be an insult! It cant be denied for a time 68' onwards there was a huge crossover of music between the scenes before Northern went in search of more obscure/non commercial music. Was it Mod without Dress restriction/constraints? Northern soul in our area very early 80's brought a sweeping change to the scooterist scene,clothes previously regarded as mod gone in a flash. Scooters radically de-modded and attitudes changed in an instant.Was it rebellion against the smart look that went before,a feeling maybe of not having to conform to past perceptions? Know of one wigan casino membership holder from our area that im sure would not like to be described as a mod! Did Northern soul take only the elements from the mod scene it needed to progress the new scene or was it seen as something entirely different? As a member of the MOD Generation whats your take on this? Are you a follower of both or in your eyes are they although linked, still 2 different scenes?
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I think the phrase "Northern soul" can turn people off and that's a shame.
Immediately you start thinking Flares, sweat and vests. Lol no offence if you like flares and vests. I prefer to say 60's soul and there are some great tunes.
Yeah you could easily say Northern soul do's aren't really Mod but Mods certainly do attend them, myself included ;-)
Would agree with u harry,that yes mods do attend Northern nites. probs becoz the music is of a similar veign to what the mods were dancing to in the 60's ie. Music of Black origin. Which was ripped inside out and commercialised by many a Brit beat favourite!
I was into northern soul in the seventies before I got into the mod revival in 1979/80. Never witnessed any link between the two at the time tbh, music was faster & the dress was totally different too. Soul boys wore vests or t-shirts with oxford bags (very wide trousers with 2" turn ups) and "boaters" wide toed leather soled shoes(very slippery used with talc for fast footwork).
No idea how the two got connected tbh, I think this must of came later in the eighties? Interesting though most soul boys at northern do's these days have adopted fred perry's, trainers, jeans or tonics etc. Probably because most in their late 40's, 50's or 60's would look silly in the original clobber :)
Howard, what u say would tie into what happened up here when mod was washed away by the Nothern Soul resurgence in the earl eighties, though for some they never stopped at northern soul they kept on going into the Psychobilly scene soon thereafter!!
I guess that was the key John, it was the fusion of the two that possibly has kept it alive all these years. Rather than fragment as you describe. I think the same has happened with skinheads & ska/reggae itts all jumbled in together these days.
Which makes it all the more confusing mate.......??
You're not into segregation are you John?
Not in the slightest,would never make anyone feel the way i was made to feel whilst attending rallies back in the day! But im not complaining look what they done to poor Edwin starr!! :-)
But i am an unashamed beleiver that they are both very different scenes!!
I agree they are different but both relevant. No ones making me feel that way, it's just a question, there's good and bad everywhere. I concentrate on the positive and look for the good whilst dealing with the bad as and if it appears.
And thats just how it should be my friend! Your right its only a question and everyone will think of it there own way,if it was any other way there would be no need for discussions! :-)