The Society of Cool
I hang with a few cliques in Sheffield and the lack of good neat clothing is shockingly bad. Don't get me wrong they are great people but I'd say from a total of around 40 people only about 6 of them wear a suit let alone own one and I find this truly a sad state of affairs. So my question to you folks is how many people in your circle wear a suit?
It seems to me that most people consider themselves being a mod because they wear a Fred Perry polo with the top button done up. Since the FP appears to be in fashion at the moment, it could mean that people are trying to pass themselves off as mod but have little understanding of the culture and would probably be a punk or somethinig the next week; to them it's just a fancy dress party which they do at the weekend. I'm sorry if I come across a bit brash or snotty, but it's how I feel about things? Any of you people relate to this?
That's right Ian, there seems to have been some sort of uniform developed over the years e.g. a FP polo, sta prest and desert boots, parka etc. Nothing wrong with that of course and it can look smart but it is being catered for, or rather dictated to, be it clothes and music, which is supposedly the main reason the scene fell apart in the 60s. It's to me like someone saying I'm going to be a mod, I need this and that. That's another question, one of which has been done on here. Do people decide to become a mod or discover they are a mod?
Dessert Boots Parka and a suit jacket is a must for me, with shirt and jeans (if on the scooter) - never had Fred perry or Pringle as skinheads always had them on in my day..
The scene in Ann Arbor-Ypsilanti is rather casual --and very small. I think everybody owns at least one suit, but just isn't all that likely to wear it out. I still don't know enough about the Lansing area.
Personally, I'm hesitant to admit it, but I don't own a suit just yet --the reason being I'm 4'11½", and hard to fit. I can find decent shirts, but I'm working on making my own suit, actually, because I'm decent with a sewing machine (or at least I used to be --it's like riding a bicycle, yes?) and I can't afford a tailor I'd trust. In the mean time, I have a cashmere jacket (the first one I've found in a long time that fits perfectly off-the-rack) and a few waistcoats --which led to me looking a bit more "dressed up" than my friends in Ann Arbor, but it was just as much out of necessity as a sense of style: Frankly, I think the Fred Perry / Ben Sherman look just makes me look rounder than I actually am.
cant beat a well tailored suit for style and that feeling of wearing something made just for you and it fitting like a glove..beautiful. i think the reason some mods dont wear suit is because they are not that committed or treat it in a casual more relaxed way, less purist and traditional and, sorry, but lazy with the details, some are happy to don the ususal suspects, FP, Ben Sherman, etc and thats enough for them to say there a mod..each to his own, all it does it is separate the boys from the men, as a well dressed suited mod will ALWAYS out dress, out style and attract more positive attention than a person in the clobber you can buy anywhere and in fashion with the general public anyway...no one is going to look at them and say, wow, hes obviously a mod, and he looks sharp...no one outside the scene, or even in the scene would know, maybe the haircut would be an indicator but i doubt it...i wear casual gear, dont get me wrong, and love my Fred Perrys etc, but love a good tailored suit and for me, its what separates you from the masses...
I believe it's more about how you co-ordinate the pieces, add the individual twists to the ordinary and mundane as well as to the contrived, to give them some pop! Anyone can wear clothes but only another stylist can spot another stylist. The great thing about now, is that you can take the mod influences from the past, present and future while using imagination to display a smart, smooth and slick appearance for any situation. My main rule of thumb is a great quote from the legendary Hardy Amies, 'A man should look as if he had bought his clothes with intelligence, put them on with care and then forgotten all about them' (Hi girls, applies to you equally). In a nutshell strive to be cool.
Good thread. I agree that less mods wearing suits and it makes me sad. As I agree with the others here I think one reason is to be lazy and it is easier to arrange a casual style. But if I were a man I would wear suits.....oh yes. You are fully dressed and details separates you from any other man. But perhaps times will change again and men return to the suit as avery day clothing.
i had a girlfriend who wore suits, 3 and 4 button, tho tailored to her figure ofcourse, and waisted, with button down shirts, and cravats etc, she looked amazing standing next to the girls at the bar in there huge hair, tangoed make up and over tight skirts...tho she got some funny looks, as she had short hair too, and minimal make up...would love to see more mod girls wearing suits...
Sounds really cool Paul. I have an old suit but not 60s. Regarding my previous post I have to wear it :-) I think women look fatser overdressed than men in a suit.....Nonsense: Be a mod and looking overdressed???? I'm really funny. Forget what I wrote.
I think I would be jealous of your friend and would say: shame on me for my clothes.
" is it still cool too wear desert boots with suit trousers lol"
Dbs should NEVER be worn with a suit (in my humble opinion) as they are casual shoes