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Where are they from?
The dialling code is Vietnam I think.
There made in Italy and shipped over to Vietnam then where ever you want it shipping too.
Theres YouTube videos of the scooters.
I would be very wary of purchasing a scooter from Vietnam or indeed from anywhere where I was unable to inspect the scooter before handing over my hard earned cash.
There have been a couple of posts on this forum about Vietnamese scooters. Some people have had good experiences but unfortunately, some have been bad.
If you want a cheap scooter, buy it unrestored and have it done by someone who knows what they are doing.
If you are thinking of going ahead with the Vietnam purchase, ask them for any documentation of the restoration process. A good restorer would have this, either in the form of pictures or documents.
Without wanting to scare you, this was a post from an earlier MG discssion....
Ive been emailing a sale manager at Star Vespa for a week or so now and the latest email i sent ' We spoke about the scooters afew days ago and ive checked out some threads about Star Vespa and people are saying the website is bad for buying them and that the Vietnam scooters arent good.
Some responses i got:
there was coke cans...inside the engine!!! the chrome..if you can call it that was
i wouldnt buy from vietnam, cos you cant see the bike, i would never spend that amount fo money without being able to see it. i have heard that they can snap im half(not good),
someone bought a vetnamese lammy, and had to push to a show on the same road as his even with a new engine!
Please can you tell me more info about the scooters before i buy them and could you attach some pictures of the scooters?
And the response i got was: Thank you for your email. For information regarding vietnam scooters, it's true that there are bad shops who sell scooters at around USD 1400 per scooter and at that price, there is only a new paint job on the scooter and there is no restoration on the engine. You pay what you buy so obviously, there is no good scooter at that price.
When you purchase scooters from us, we will provide you pictures of the scooter before restoration, under bodywork process, painting process, assembling process and final finished pictures. Then you can check and see every details of your scooter.
Please do not hesitate to contact us directly for any further information.
Sadly ill have to find another scooter like the classics...
By putting up Roberto's story of the VBB, you're not really scaring anybody, Glenn. ;-)
Roberto is a mate of mine - an old-school Italian mechanic - who knows his stuff when it comes to restorations and things. Sure, he charges a hell of a lot, but he's well worth the money if you have that kind of dosh in the first place. He'll tell you to your face - unashamedly- about what he really thinks of Asian scooters, whether they are from India, Vietnam or Indonesia, I know of a guy who bought an Indian Lambretta a couple years back - but already owns a Modded-up Vietnamese Sprint - and had plenty of trouble with the Lammie... not long after he bought the damn thing!
All I can say is that, Asian scooters are so easy to find/get and restoring take up a lot of time and money. You just hope and pray to the Vespa/Lambretta/Mod Gods and Goddesses that you know what you're in for and that you won't end up making any bad decisions or regrets, JELLERBY232.
The bit that scared me was the images where it shows it was several different scooter parts welded together to make the full scooter.
I would be gutted if I stripped a scooter down and found that under the paint....
I knew what you meant by scared, as in it was just a warning.
I have been gutted, almost in tears at such a sight (or would that be shite?!!) myself... and it was damn VBB, also. My partner Michael and a Kiwi buddy of ours invested in a scooter project for last year that was from Adelaide for me, thinking it would be nice for me to start somewhere at least. Whilst having my creative juices flowing (lights, mirrors, Small Faces themes running in my head) and even christened it "Ronnie", I thought that this was going to be great! Michael and I got it sandblasted locally here in Ballarat, only to find it was a mish/mash of all dfferent scooters!! :-( See pictures.
I now own Michael's sandblasted, rust-holed (I'll work on it), ITALIAN 150 Super, so that Ronnie can eventually come to life the way I want him to!!
Yikes Bec, that's not good!
I think any scooter that has been welded like that is a real safety concern. I wouldn't fancy hitting a bump at speed to find the back end falls off....
Glad to hear things are working out for you now though. Please post some pics when "Ronnie" is finished!
the wise thing to do is to go into an established uk dealer who has got a good reputation and take your pick from whatever new ,used or older restored scooter you want .
i was passing af rayspeeds the other week and they had a line up of lovely lambretta gp's in the window .
sure they will have been restored in india but rayspeeds will have insisted on a certain amount of quality .
theyre not going to throw 50 years reputation away to make a fast buck on a batch of dodgy far east backstreet rebuild scooters .
DONT BUY A SCOOTER UNSEEN THRU THE INTERNET FROM INDIA OR VIETNAM !
maybe 10 years ago there was some reasonable scooters coming from such places at cheap prices but those good complete scooters that maybe only needed slight restoration are long gone and the "restorers " are increasingly turning to the junkheap and welding two scooters into one to make a fast buck